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« on: May 03, 2007, 07:01:56 PM »


hi all.

I am very confused regarding the benefits of 'which' Confused clippers. Comparing in particular the Oster A5 & the Wahl ones.
I have never clipped yet....but have watched.  I am keen to begin on my 5 month old miniature poodle. She is very excitable, so this won't be easy.
However, I would be grateful for any experiences with those particular clippers...also I've read that a one speed one is easiest for home use.  Also glad of any comments re the narrow clipping heads that can be used on toes.
Thanks....
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 01:46:02 AM »

Hello Lynnette: Others will have to comment on the other brands....as I've only really used Oster's in my time. Mainly A5s, but we did have a set of A2s at the grooming shop years ago. I found two sets of A5s myself later on....got them at bargains, so was a no brainer for them. Thus, that is what I use. I rather like the toe blades, and you may find them handier on a mini. Standards may be able to get away with a larger blade used at an angle better, but we all have our own preferences too. I don't have all the blade sizes myself, but do keep what I need. I usually use a 10 or 15 on lots of parts....though a 5 or 4 on the body when I want to cut it shorter is what I prefer over a 7, which is what many use. I do have one of the toe blades (forget which one offhand...it's in another room right now), but I've found it handy on mini feet. Though I also have used kiddy Fiskar scissors (slightly rounded tip for safety) as they are sharp and do the job around toes and other finer areas. So, I'm really not much help on this....if you can afford to get a bunch of the blades, do so.....have one of each on hand and use what you find handiest. Is there anybody you know that has clippers you can test out or blades you can try out? Just to see how it goes? Though any of the major brands and blades will do the trick, you may find one more to your liking than another. Sorry I'm not much help at the moment, but hopefully it gives you some to consider and that others can help out more.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 08:08:57 AM »

Thanks for that reply Michael.  A few I know have the Wahl clippers. I was wondering also regarding the sound factor. Perhaps I am trying to consider too much all at once.   One person told me she started off (pratising) using a cheaper pair, until she felt more confident.  I would rather start off with a better pair.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2007, 02:04:12 AM »

lynette

i have , Oster A5's, single and a two speed & a very loved set of Oster A2....

(Ii did buy a set of Andis, but sent them back after a month and was lucky enough to get a full refund)

I have 2 standards and only use a 10 blade for face, feet & tail bases.. and a 7 on the body.

I do own a toe blade, and I must admit, i have never used it on my dogs and very occasionally use it on mini's,
i find it fiddly..... (but i have no patience)

As for the oster A2's I do love them, I use them all the time on babies as they are considerably quiter!  Our practice is to use  them for face, feet & tail bases and by the time the baby has had a couple of these trims they are generally used to the noise and sensation of clipping so when it is time to do the body I change to the A5's and use a 7 or 5 on the body...

please take into account, I DO NOT OWN SHOW POODLES!!!!!!

hope I havent totally confused you...

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2007, 07:49:00 PM »

Hi Lynette. You've now heard from one pet owner and one groomer. I show as well as do some grooming on pets for my own as well as other dogs. My first ever set of clippers were 2 speed A5s and I hated them. Large, hot, heavy, awkward and clunky, hot, noisy and HOT. And did I mention hot? They would heat up so much they were even hot to hold, forget the blades that turned to the temperature of molten metal within minutes and i had to change blades after each toe. No I hated them.

To be fair, that was 8 years ago. There are newer Oster models out there that may be better. But with the ones I got you could even buy a sleeve for the clippers to stop burning your hands! sheesh.

So I traded them in for the Wahl single speed clippers. A bit lighter. A bit quieter (though not quiet). A bit lighter, a bit slimmer in design. I love them. Yes the blades do heat up, but even in summer I can clip a whole lot more dog before I need to change blades on them.

And they're the old Wahls. The newer ones which I've used at friend's places and at the grooming salon I worked at, are wonderful. I love them. Quieter than my old Wahls, a much nicer shape to hold, a nice weight, they're just the best. When I need a new set thats what I'm buying.

I also have an old pair of Andis single speed clippers. I love them too. I got them cheap through a newspaper when I thought to myself 'I show poodles, what if my clippers die the night before a show?' so I figured I needed a spare set. Well, to be honest I use them more than I use the Wahls. They are quieter again so I tend to use them on f/f/t of any dog thats a bit skittish. They're a nice shape and also dont run hot.

On the merits of the Andis... I've heard that once they break they're done for good, you cant fix them like you can the Wahls or Osters. I've heard they're not good for grooming shop situations as they cant handle the workload. Which is all fine for me. I have 2 standards and one toy, only one standard in show trim. I use my clippers once a week and not on all three dogs at once. They only get light work with the odd customer dog too. Either of these would be great for a pet owner.

As for blades... well to each his own. I also own a toe blade and I never use it. I think I used it once. I dont like it much... its like almost useless. But then again I use normal sized blades to clip toy poodle toes and babies and everything. It just takes practice in learning how to angle the blade.

For blade sizes you'll need, well thats entirely up to personal preference. The blades I use the most are, of course, the #40s which is what I use on the show dogs, but I also use them on all my dogs for f/f/ts. I like the clean shaven look and dislike fuzzy. On pet dogs I use a #10 but really dont like it. I do think I'll buy a #15 at some stage as I've heard its a bit better. For other blades I have a couple of #7s in both full and skip tooth that get a good workout for pets, a couple of #3s in both F and skip and a #5, #4 and a few #30s. I never use combs as I dont like them so I do all my clipping with the blades and then scissor for the rest. Then again I'm not a professional groomer and I can take as long as I like on a dog.

So at the end of the day I'd probably recommend the Wahl IIs and a #10 or #15 for f/f/t if you dont want to go closer. A #30 if you like clean shaven. And then depending on the weather and how much coat you want to leave on the body either a #7 or a #5. And a good pair of scissors.

Have fun!  Smile
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2007, 07:40:20 AM »

What a wonderful lot of advice from Zefi.  Thank you so much.....all this is so helpful. Is it too much to ask.....what sort of scissors do you use??
thanks again
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 04:47:40 PM »

Scissors is a tough one as there are so many out there. The best thing to do is pick up a few pairs and see how they feel in your hand. I have straight ones and curves but to be honest I use the curves almost exclusively. I have 2 pairs of curves, smaller and larger, and even my large ones arent that big. I could go a lot bigger for a standard. I like the brushed silver finish so all three of my good scissors are that type. One is Roseline from England and the others are a brand I'd never heard of before made by Solingen in Germany. I got them at a poodle show while I was over there a few years ago.

I've heard from people in the USA who have Gators and love them. Perhaps thats a good brand to stick with?
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 04:57:19 AM »

Thank you again for all that information.  I feel more confident about decisions.  I'll be glad when my pup's coat thickens, especially on her legs, so that scissoring may be a little easier.   Smile
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 05:56:24 AM »

Hi, just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.  I'm like Zefi - dislike the Osters because of the fact they heat up so quickly and if you use them for an extended period they are too hot to hold.  They do last forever though.  I prefer the Whals and have no hesitation recommending them as great value and nice to use - my current pair have been going for 10 years.  There are other great clippers on the market but they tend to be a lot more expensive.  If you are going to do a pet trim like "lamb" I would recommend a 15 blade for the face, feet and tail and a 5f for the body and 3f for the legs as this leaves minimal scissoring.  Unlike the other posters I love the toe blade and use it all the time for toys and minis (even on my standards).  Enjoy the clipping!
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2007, 10:49:47 PM »

Fluffy, do you use the toe blade for toes or other things? Someone once recommended I use it between the rosettes on my show dog's back! Smile
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2007, 04:36:34 AM »

Mainly for toes, on toys I will do the whole foot sometimes.  Yes, it is great for doing between the rosettes and I also often do that tricky bit of hair along the lip line with a toe blade - my naughty brown standard prefers the smaller blade in this area. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 08:20:40 PM »

Zefi, I have Gator curved scissors and love them.Like you, I use curved scissors a lot. I've bought most of mine through Petedge, so they are posted from the States, and are still very economical! They have a huge range. I would also recommend the Wahl battery operated clippers(both sizes) for anyone with arthritic hands, as they are incredibly light. They are also less scary for dogs unused to grooming.

You give great advice on grooming!
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 08:25:32 PM »

Hi Merryl and welcome!!! Please introduce yourself and your gorgeous dogs on the welcome page and put photos in your signature (help is around!). And add your map to the pin.

I might look at getting a pair of HUGE gator curves one day...
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 08:38:43 PM »

My Gators are huge...and save lots of time scissoring my show poodle into those "balls". Don't hesitate - get'em!
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2007, 09:42:44 PM »

I have two curves: a Roseline from England, toy size (LOL) and a german Solingen larger pair. But I've seen seriously big ones.
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